Then you can tell us if there is a difference! He is implying that the part of the string behind the bridge is under more tension in the through-strunk body. Unfortunately, (friction notwithstanding) the laws of physics disagree with him.. term for the musical effect it produces. whammy bar or tremolo arm, although vibrato is the technically correct I can't imagine there would be many friction problems over a tele saddle. Supporting Members list unlimited gear with no listing fees in the Classifieds, get instant Keyword Alerts, and get Free Shipping at the TalkBass Store. Since small changes in length lead to fairly large changes in sideways deflection (more towards the twelfth fret, less near the nut) that can lead to a change in what you might call the effective string constant - force needed to achieve a given sideways deflection. However, in the case of my big block, it did make a huge difference. The actual string tension is the major factor, but different amounts of 'extra-scale-length' string free to stretch will have an effect. They each have a master volume control, but where the Tele only has one tone control, the Strat has dedicated tone knobs for the middle … Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Cliff Bordwell, Jun 3, 2014. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Thank you for your support! ". You can also show this with a Les Paul. rapid fluctuation of the volume of a note, while vibrato is a I must get this thing worked out in my head once and for all. For Sale: Bass Guitar Strings and Accessories, The TB Bazaar: Gear For Sale from our Sponsors, For Sale: Double Bass Amps, Strings & Accessories, Wanted: Bass Guitars, Amps, and Accessories, Wanted: Double Basses, Amps & Accessories, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). I had spend the last five years trying to get the intonation right and never could. Some folks may like that, others may not, but the difference is apparent, but not large. Gold Supporters see zero ads! Toploaders are 'rubbery' compared to strings through body imho. Tone wise I've never been able to tell the difference. Many years ago, I began boring top-loader holes in my bridge plate flanges so that, some unwarbly day in the future, players could remove their Bigsbys and still have playable guitars without having to drill and install ferrules. Every time I heard the "stiffer/looser" myth I went "huh? Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." May 6, 2014 #8 I got a Glendale bridge a while ago that has top load capability as well as string through. Always worth a go though. Supporting Member. Should have zero effect on intonation. The bass always played fast, but now it is the entire package. Some stiffness is attributable to poor set-up, but some - unquestionably - has to do with the tension on the string behind the saddle. Here's what they won't tell you: All too often, string-through-body guitars you'll find on the rack are STIFF and UNFRIENDLY. I have owned both and IMHO the top-loader feels looser and more 'slinky'. Those offending guitars are also likely to be UNSTABLE when it comes to tuning. My initial solution was to move the bridge plate back, so that the saddles would come forward for proper intonation and create a more gentle angle between the saddle and the spot where the string dissappears into the body. - Homer Simpson. You can put a Bigbsy on it without it looking like a bodge. My two cents, check out jim campilongo on youtube - in my opinion, there are very few guitar players who are more deserving of a sig model from fender. It helped, but not enough. You can prove this very easily with a Les Paul or other guitar with a tailpiece which can be raised or lowered relative to the bridge. Guitarfetish Price $15.95 In Stock . They stay in tune. I have been to the toploader mount and I have seen the toploader light. Tele strings could do with changing, Fender bridge allows for top load or through body, I've always gone through body without thinking about it. The origin of this nonstandard usage of the term Why not alternate them: put the E through the body, the A top-loaded, etc. Since bridge is set up for it already, the conversion plus fixing a jack issue was $130. As soon as I tried one of those modified bridge plates on a non-Bigsby guitar, I was sold. It would be unreasonable to comment on the tone though as both guitars were at very different price points. it must improve the sustain. Well, friction at the bridge saddle will give the same kind of tuning hassles as a sticky nut. These include a one-piece maple neck, a white 1-ply pickguard (black until late 1954, 3-ply after 1963), an ash body finished in translucent blonde, and a “spaghetti” headstock logo positioned above the string tree, lining up with the A tuner. Many people insist that in order for certain guitars to acheive proper snap, crackle, and pop, the strings MUST pass through the bridge plate and anchor in ferrules on the back of the guitar's body. Stratocaster Electronics vs. Telecaster Electronics The Stratocaster and Telecaster generally have similar electronics. TalkBass utilizes technology from Skimlinks that may give us a small affiliate commission on purchases made via links on our site. True the strings are a pain since the cost a bit more, but in this case the difference in the tone and clarity is night and day. As a rule I prefer neck through basses with string through bridges. But for just about one year back in 1959 Fender decided for whatever reason to eliminate the string-through design and go with the top-loader. That impacts intonation. They sound every bit as good. There is the fact that string past the nut or bridge can stretch as you bend or press the strings. Top-Loader vs String-Through Tele Bridges. I have a Cabronita (through) & partscaster (top) & to me the top loader feels looser to play, less string tension? In standard usage, tremolo is a but might go over the top this time. Going to give it a try on a new tele build and do a … When you hear those guys you are most likely hearing a traditional string-through Telecaster. It looks like you're new here. "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Anyway, there is a good reason to prefer a top-loader, without ferrules in the back. Do they claim that it does affect the sound? But if a bass I really like doesn't have string through body design, that won't stop me from buying it. 10.5mm "Dual-Load" bridge, fits Tele® - Solid Steel Baseplate- Chrome. through the body for me. by electric guitarists is attributed to Leo Fender, who also used the Are there any noticeable differences in tone? Friction, and tension differences, would presumably happen at the point where the string breaks over the edge of the string-thru hole in the bridge plate. But if you’re in doubt, the instrument can also be strung in more traditional string-through-body style, which also enables compare-and-contrast tone experiments between the two stringing methods. to the string thru Vs top-L concepts in Tele types.. zztomato. One need only listen to Page’s Telecaster discography to know that a top loader has all the punch it takes to make massive sounds. term “vibrato” to refer to what is really a tremolo effect. The 1958 Telecaster pictured has the features most often associated with a top-loading Tele. Players often report that they can use heavier-than-usual strings without losing playability. Can I damage my cab by playing too loud too low. I have top loaders and string through Teles ... there is absolutely no difference in tone or sustain. Through body holes are behind the saddles. 10.5mm "Dual Load" bridge, fits Tele® - Solid Steel baseplate GOLD. The consensus is that there is no difference in the sound so I’m wondering why some manufacturers offer the string through body option. The consensus is that there is no difference in the sound so I’m wondering why some manufacturers offer the string through body option. fluctuation in pitch. For a given pitch, scale length and string mass, the tension has to be the same, it doesn't matter how they're attached past the bridge and nut". Because no part of the string is under especially heavy tension: the guitars bend well, even at the country-friendly frets near the nut. Messages 11,410. Sustain won't be affected because even on a top-loader, the bridge is firmly screwed to the body so there is nowhere for the vibration energy to go, any more than there is on a through-body. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons! Likewise I have string through and  stop bar flying Vs ... again no difference. Feel-wise there is a little difference I think, but after 38 seconds of playing either I'm not sure I could tell really anyway. Those people will argue this to the point of violence. Guitarfetish Price $19.95 In Stock . Finally had enough and took it in to have it fixed. Quite often, I'm asked to build Bigsby-equipped guitars. I suppose everybody has to believe in something. But that aside, the tension is the same all along the string. When the same toploader-hating music store guy is A) rhapsodizing about anybody who ever played with John Mayall or, I don't want to fight about it, but I'm standing up for toploaders.

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